Wall Of Shame - The New Flame War Follies
Introduction:
since first surfing the net back in 1999 during the days of Altavista / Lycos / Angelfire, and chatting in ICQ / gamespy arcade, and in all the years leading to 2023, I believe I've had the displeasure to meet what i think is one of the THE BIGGEST HYPROCRITE AND LIAR to have ever existed on the internet to this day; a gamer known by his username as "Zoarb".
thus this website was made to document his various follies for historical purposes, with the name of this site drawing inspiration from bill huffman's "flame war follies" site, as i now found myself in a similiar situation as bill was in back then. anywho, let's begin.
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Part 1: The short version
for those who only want a brief summary of what this hyprocrite and lair "Zoarb" was all about, his antics will be listed as follows.
- Zoarb claims to respect people with mental illness, then proudly bragged about how he'd laugh at them.
- Zoarb looks up other people's posts to laugh at them, but get butthurt when others do the same to him and exposed him for lying
- Zoarb boasted about his refusal to read other people's replies to him, then accused them of having never replied to him.
- Zoarb argues with psychology student on his belief that holding a grudge is a mental illness, whist proclaiming he does not need to prove whether he studied psychology or not.
- Zoarb claims to be dreamcast fan since 1999, but gets butthurt when he got exposed for having never even owned the console until 2008
- Zoarb inferred that he is an old gamers like us, yet accidently revealed his true age by insisting that wikipedia was around in the early 2000s.
- Zoarb repeatily accused his opponent of being mentally ill and have no friends, before saying his opponent had no interest in civil discussion with him.
- Zoarb talks down to his opponent for being a newbie to their community, only for Zoarb to get butthurt when his opponent revealed he had been part of the community for 10 years longer than he is, under a different username.
- Zoarb misread other people's post but when he gets called out for it, he then lashed out at others for make failed posts on the forums, as he so puts it.
- Zoarb claims asking an inflammatory question to others is not offensive, but would classify his opponent asking a normal question as an act of offending others.
- Zoarb insistsed we stick to his assumptions of what he thinks happened on the forums back in 2002, then admitted he wasn't around back then, before cautioning others not to make assumptions and stick to reality.
- Zoarb gleefully points out his opponent for being wrong, but when his opponent do the exact same thing, he'd then say that pointing out others for being wrong is a wrongful act of shaming them
- Zoarb would call others people for being "wrong" when he preceive them as such, but would refuse to use the same word on himself, instead opting to use the phrase "I will concede" to save his own face.
- Zoarb bragged about how nobody is taking his opponent's side, yet when his opponent pointed out that nobody had stood up for him either, he then continued insisting on his irreplacible friendship with his cronies, who remained absent to the end.
- Zoarb accused his opponent of not having contributed to the community, then being forced to eat his own words when his opponent revealed his previous contributions for the past 19 years.
- Zoarb make fun of his opponent twice for being a newbie with low post count, but when his opponent's 19 years long posting history was revealed, zoarb gets butthurt and claims posting history don't matter anyway.
- Zoarb realized hes not winning, thus asked for peace and co-existence with his opponent, before retracting his offer out
of shame, whist denouncing his opponent's existence.
-Zoarb does not want to be further embarrassed publically, and so demanded his opponent to continue the debate privately in discord, while simultaneously declaring that he's not interested in what his opponent has to say, whist also advising his opponent to just let it go.
- Zoarb, as the vanquished, then further demanded his victor to agree to his terms and conditions, laughing at how his victor
has no choice but to do as he says.
- Zoarb then delliousionally declared that his opponents had gained nothing from the fight, before saying farewell with much love, as he puts it.
- Zoarb was last seen frantically requesting the moderators of the forums to delete all of his opponent's recent posts talking about what he did, out of fear, shame and guilt that others will see how he behaved.
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Part 2: The long version
if you're still interested, all of Zoarb's quotes are listed below, along with the webpage
source where it originated from, which is also listed at the very bottom of this
site.
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Zoarb wrote on dc-talk forums:
I was around for the 16-bit console wars. And the beginning, and end of the Dreamcast.
Zoarb wrote on reddit:
I first tried it on a CD-R on my first Dreamcast in 2008
Me wrote on dc-talk forums:
it's just that.....you told us you were actually around back when the dreamcast launched, but you also said that you never bought a dreamcast console until 2008. how curious.
Me wrote on dc-talk forums:
I am doubtful, considered you listed yourself as a student in 2016 on your psoworld profile. you also talked about your college roommate on reddit back in 2021.
Me wrote on dc-talk forums:
the fact that you claimed wikipedia was around during the dreamcast days of the early 2000s, is another tell tale sign you are in fact much younger than you'd be willing to tell us.
Zoarb wrote on dc-talk forums:
You also think it's ok to find my Reddit account and accuse me of lying because I mentioned my college roommate somewhat recently. As well as because I stated my occupation was student in 2017. Not like people go to college in their 20's and 30's.
========= Summery: =========
Zoarb worded his statement in such a way, to refer himself as someone who've been around since the beginning of the Dreamcast as he so puts it, yet he never even owned the dreamcast console until a decade later in 2008.
his ambiguity is a form of deception, as he could've said he never owned a dreamcast until 2008; but he chose not to, instead he inferred himself as an old-timer, when he was not.
also no mention he had played the dreamcast at a friend's house back in the day, along with forgetting to mention the saturn.
lastly who the hell in their 30s are still going to college and working as a cashier as late as 2017? and talking about roomates in 2021? yeah people in the 20s age group would fit that description more, but there's no way they were around the 16-bit console war.
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Zoarb wrote:
you need mental help. I'm not even being a jerk here. I
would tell my friends the same thing.
Zoarb wrote:
We are all laughing at you and talking about how
unhinged you are
========= Summery: =========
Zoarb inferred that i'm mentally ill, and had claimed that he is telling me to seek help out of the goodness of his heart, yet he had gleefully bragged about how he had no problems laughing at those he preceived as being emotionally unstable.
however as someone who studied psychology, i'll say that delibrately destabilizing an emotionally disturbed client is dangerous, and considered as a form of malpractice, as we are required to be respectful to clients at all times.
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Zoarb wrote:
op should seek therapy"
Zoarb wrote:
If you really kept a grudge for that long, that isn't
healthy. And implies you need mental help
Zoarb wrote:
OH MY GOD! Talk to people!
Zoarb wrote:
My response? Enjoying life lol. Going outside.
Zoarb wrote:
It shows me that you have no interest in actual
discourse
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Zoarb repeatedly accused me of being mentally ill, inferred that I have no friends and don't go outside, then had the nerve to say that i never wanted a civilized discussion with him.
also as a psychology student, I can tell you that holding a grudge is not considered as a type of deviant behavior, on it's own it also cannot be classified as a mental illness. we infact look for signs such as if the client's negetive emotions has impacted aspects of his life, or if he had inflicted physical harm to himself or others.....etc
for Zoarb, he is merely putting stress on our MHS system with a CP to patient ratio of 1/26, over his mere suspicion that holding grudges constitude as a mental illness.
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Zoarb wrote:
Let's address some of things that observably state "op should seek therapy" about this post.
Me wrote:
still your veiled suggestion of me being mentally ill is not lost on me, so i've returned because i too had something to say, and i don't want people to think i'm a crazy person.
Zoarb wrote:
And your assumptions on "seeking therapy" as me
labeling you "a crazy person" is overall damaging to
topic of mental health in our society.
Me wrote:
i have never asked other students in psychology class to judge each other to see if they need therapy with the malicious intention of having others see them as being mentally ill.
you have done that yourself. so save that advice for yourself.
Zoarb wrote:
Real talk. This isn't worth my time. I have nothing to
prove to you.
========= Summery: =========
Zoarb admitted to never having studied psychology, yet he continued to insist that holding a grudge is a mental illness
how disingenuous is his claim of not wanting to damage the topic of mental health.
also i stated i do not want people to "think i'm a crazy person", and i never once said that people who seek therapy are "crazy". see how he twists my words?
theres a lot of papers on how psychology was weaponized in the past to stigmatize, confine, discredit and silence voices of opposition, especially by totalitarian regimes.
the reason Zoarb raised the same topic of my mental state over and over again, was because he wanted to utalize mental health stigma against me, out of malice and as a means to discredit me.
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Zoarb wrote: No one is on your side here.
Me wrote: you too stand alone in this thread, as none of your friends have the guts to stand for you here....to this very day.
Zoarb wrote: people know me. I have made friends in this community that I wouldn't trade for the world. Ian, and Mike.
Forum Message: THREAD LOCKED
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he claims to have many friends on the forums, and yet true to my word, they never came to stand for him to the very end, when the thread was finally locked. that's the kind of friends whom Zoarb "wouldn't trade for the world for", as he so puts it.
yet all this is but a amusingly fitting testiment to the sort of so called "friendships" that could only spring forth from Zoarb's den of hyenas, befitting of the kind of scum that they truly are.
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Zoarb wrote:
You have contributed nothing to this community and
have only made a laughingstock of yourself.
Me wrote:
i've also been a member of the doreamcast community
in neoseeker for the past 19 years, did you know that? i
posted the above sakura wars retrospect thread under
the name "onlygraphics" back in 2022
Zoarb wrote:
Real talk, you have actually contributed more to the
community than I have. As I just bring entertainment.
You bring actual pieces.
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alas, Zoarb was forced to bitterly eat his own words; each and
everyone.
evidently he's not happy, as seen by his grumpy "real
talk" remark.
what a pompous clown, having to swollowed back his
own baffonary after pulling it out.
although i supposed we should thank the entertainment that this laughing stock of a clown brings.
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Zoarb wrote:
you are in dm's and in other places
Zoarb wrote:
You also think it's ok to find my Reddit
Zoarb wrote:
you felt it necessary to find my only post on pso world,
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so Zoarb bragged about how he went looking for other posts with the same username as me, but when i looked for Zoarb's posts online in various places, he then gets butt hurt and inferred that it's wrong to dig up other people's post online.
what a hyprocrite.
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Zoarb wrote:
We are all laughing at you and talking about how
unhinged you are in dm's
Me wrote:
i've been a member on pso-world since 2007, under
the name "coolaid". meanwhile you joined our
community as a new member back in 2016
Zoarb wrote:
you felt it necessary to find my only post on pso world,
and comment on it a few days ago bringing up this
drama
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for your info, "DM" is a term that originated from phantasy star online.
so Zoarb brings the PSO community to shame me, but
when I revealed myself as an older member who joined that place
a decade before he did, he then gets butt-hurt and accused
me of bringing up the pso community to shame
him.
double standard much?
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Zoarb wrote:
POV asks where the community is, makes three posts,
and dips:
Zoarb wrote:
You have made 5 posts in total on these forums.
Zoarb wrote:
You seem to not understand that history does not
equal quality
Pso-World Forum Info:
coolaid's Thread - [ PSU EP3 Ending (SPOILERS) ] Oct 28, 2007, 07:29 AM
Zoarb's Thread - [ Hello all, I made a Discord server for Phantasy Star Online ] Feb 17, 2017, 02:39 AM
========= Summery: =========
if posting history don't matter, why did Zoarb brought that up against me, then lash out at me when i revealed my posting history to be being longer than his? lol what a hyprocrite.
also i reckon that leaked ending of a game that i posted on psoworld back in 2007, has more quality than Zoarb's one post in 2017 where he grovel at others to join his discord, as seen above.
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Zoarb wrote:
Final tally OP is 2 and 19
Zoarb wrote:
Did you capitalize anything here? But that's petty.
Zoarb wrote:
You are continuing to prove what everyone is thinking. That you are petty to an extreme sense.
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LOL look who's talking, the guy who's petty enough to count tallies against others in an internet argument, and attacking them for not capitalizing, amongst other things.
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Zoarb wrote:
You should be a politician. Because you seem to be good at saying so much, while saying nothing.
Zoarb wrote:
TL;DR Every point made
Zoarb wrote:
TL;DR
Zoarb wrote:
Idk if I'm going to respond to each point properly
Zoarb wrote:
you will see the full context which has been
conveniently omitted from blueagents posts in
response to myself.
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Zoarb claimed that i wrote alot even though they appeared as nothing to him, and that i had odmitted the stuff he said and whatnot, while also openly admitted that he hadn't read most my post with "TL;DR".
seriously, is this imbicile a byproduct of inbreeding or what?
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Zoarb wrote:
Life is a gamble.
Nothing is guaranteed.
Don't put all your chips on red.
If it seems too good to be true, it probably is.
But above all, make sure you HAVE FUN
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Zoarb puts all his chips on red and bet against me being a newbie that he can talk down to, and now his gamble had failed and all his chips are all gone.
the fact that he failed to recognize his losing streak is a living testament to his folly of living life by a trashy, failed philosophy of chronic gamblers. (and i say this as a psychology student who've been trained to denounce chronic gambler's belief that they could win)
on a fair note with regards to the life advice he wrote above, i did very much "HAVE FUN" at his expense, which this dumb ass rightfully deserve.
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Zoarb wrote:
You're gonna look me in the face, and tell me the DC
dying didn't benefit the GC
Zoarb wrote:
So good for us GC fans
========= Summery: =========
Zoarb earlier claimed to be a dreamcast fan since " the
beginning, and end of the Dreamcast." as he so puts it.
yet he'd openly raved about the death of
dreamcast as a good thing for gamecube fans like
himself, because their console benefited from it.
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Zoarb wrote:
Def not a prime example of "kiddies" "damaging the
DC's rep"
Zoarb wrote:
So please, stay away from assumptions and stick in
the realm of reality based on factual evidence.
Me wrote:
i'm guessing you werent around back then, when
the gamecube fanbase was relentlessly going into
planetdreamcast forums and making post like "the
dreamcast sucks
Zoarb wrote:
I was outside being an active kid when all this was
going on. Thus, I was not overly familiar with the online
zeitgeist of the time.
========= Summery: =========
Zoarb advised me to stick to his own assumptions of what he thinks happened on planet-dreamcast forums back then, which
according to him, were facts based on reality, even though he later admitted he was never actually there; while I was.
also noticed how he defended his own ignorance by stating that everyone on planet-dreamcast don't go outside like he does.
lol what a scumbag.
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Zoarb wrote: as everything listed is easily verified one way or the other with a quick Wikipedia search.
Me: wikipedia was not around back then
Zoarb wrote: Idk if I'm going to respond to each point properly. Or at all other than this. If I do, it'll be next year. Because quite frankly, I have a lot going on right now that deserves more of my effort and attention.
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Zoarb erroneously insisted that wikipedia was around during the early 2000s, in response to my earlier post talking about what happened on the forums at the time.
as usual he defended himself by dodging the question and saying that he had better things to do.
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VanillaLake:
The GameCube was as successful as the Xbox. The
PS2 DVD rage won, but GameCube was better than
PS2 and is considered by most people one of the best
consoles ever.
Zoarb wrote:
The wording here makes it hard to decipher is they're
saying the PS2 is considered the best console ever, or
the GC. Which, if I'm not 100% sure
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LOL look how far Zoarb is willing to go to defend and
make excuses for his fellow gamecube breathen.
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Zoarb wrote:
Post by Shikamaru Ninja "How can the DC lineup be
better...?" A simple question. An inflammatory one? It
could be argued. But a question, nonetheless
Me wrote:
so how many dreamcast games are there? no one in
the dreamcast community has documented the total
number of games
Zoarb wrote:
then attempt to shame the DC community for not
knowing off hand, or possibly having confirmed
documentation of the exact number of titles released
for the DC in all regions.
========= Summery: =========
when Zoarb's gamecube friends shamed the dreamcast, he defended and excused them by saying they were only asking a question.
however when I ask my own question about why total number of dreamcast game had not been counted, Zoarb then hyprocritically accused me of shaming members of the current dreamcast forum of not having performed total head count of all dreamcast games, when all i did was asked why it hadn't been done at this point.
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Zoarb wrote:
Are you one of those people who shame people
getting into a new hobby because of their ignorance to
something brand new to them?
Me wrote:
Agjsdfd said the Gamecube had more games than
Xbox, and Ps2. all i did was listed the number of games
to prove him wrong, i never even ridiculed him, but that
according to you is shaming?
Zoarb wrote:
Way to cherry pick and twist what is being said
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what a thuggish liar and a two faced hyprocrite.
also ignorance is not an excuse if one stated his own ignorant beliefs as facts, in which case i see no immorality for the shaming of their ignorance.
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Zoarb wrote:
The GC did win over the DC. It sold more units
1 surfer_dude Wrote:
The GC sold 22 percent more than the PS3 in its first
year
Me wrote:
so this gamecube kiddie is saying that the gamecube
has also won against the ps3.
Zoarb wrote:
Not what was said. A simple observation of the ps3
having a slow start was what was stated.
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by Zoarb's logic, the gamecube's higher sales numberm is an indicator that it won against the
dreamcast.
yet when another gamecube fan explicitly stated the gamecube had won against the PS3 with its higher sales
number, Zoarb then refused to apply the same logic to his gamecube friends.
lol what a fraud.
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Zoarb wrote: Verdict: DC was not mentioned or alluded. No points. NEXT!
Zoarb wrote: Verdict: DC wasn't mentioned. Who cares about this in this context? Next.
Zoarb wrote: Verdict: DC wasn't mentioned. Not relevant in this context. Next.
Zoarb wrote: Verdict: DC wasn't mentioned. Not relevant in this context. Next.
Zoarb wrote: Verdict: DC wasn't mentioned. Not relevant in this context. Next.
Zoarb wrote: Verdict: DC wasn't mentioned. Not relevant in this context. Next.
Zoarb wrote: Factually incorrect. But again, not about the DC
Zoarb wrote: Final tally OP is 2 and 19
Me wrote: NOT EVERY SINGLE quote i posted in my first post were about the same topic of "gamecube kiddies dissing the dreamcast", only parts of the thread had delved into that
Zoarb wrote: you had to phrase it as a call out post of sorts. A failed one at that.
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so Zoarb misread my entire post and wrote a bunch of crap about how the stuff i wrote had no relevance to that one topic, even though i clearly indicated that the multiple topics were being discussed, not just one.
but rather than reflecting on his behavior, he decided to lash out at me and insisted that my post failed.
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Zoarb wrote:
We got the worse versions of the Adventure games,
and a version of Skies of Arcadia with some things
ripped out, but stuff added as well. But if you want to
argue semantics here, every game listed (aside from
Skies of Arcadia as it was listed here) was only on GC.
As in, THAT version was on GC first.
Me wrote:
that DOES NOT mean one can say the port came out
on the gamecube first, otherwise it wouldn't be called a
port by ign/gamespot
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Zoarb insisted that dreamcast games like sonic adventure counts as being released on the gamecube first, because the gamecube ports had came out for the gamecube first.
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Me wrote:
this is the reason everyone nowadays think that
windwaker was the first cellshaded game, when it was
infact jet set radio/JSRF.
Zoarb wrote:
Quite a common misconception. However, you both
are wrong. It was ZPC from 1996.
Me wrote:
ZPC is not listed as a cell-shaded game anywhere nor
historically had it ever been credited nor acknoledge
in the gaming industry as the first cell-shading game,
no reviews by gamespot/IGN had indicated it was
cell-shaded either .
Zoarb wrote:
Like I said, you should be a politician, because you
seem to be great at saying so much, while in reality
saying so little.
========= Summery: =========
Zoarb had the gulls to say that jet set radio was not
the first cell shaded game, then lash out at me when I proved him wrong with reviews from IGN / gamespot.
what a self-deluded thug.
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Zoarb wrote:
So, you're just wrong.
Zoarb wrote:
you both were wrong
Zoarb wrote:
And I'll concede
Zoarb wrote:
I will concede
========= Summery: =========
when Zoarb thinks I got something wrong, he'd be
quick to tell me that.
but when he gets something wrong, he'd let himself down easy by saying that he had conceded, over and over again, and never once be willing to admit he was wrong.
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Me wrote:
you have shown a very ugly side of yourself, and diminished yourself in the eyes of your fellow peers.
Zoarb wrote:
those who know me in this community know that I am not this person you are failing to paint me as.
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fact is, i didn't even have to do anything; the idiot Zoarb had peeled off his own mask and revealed to everyone the monster that lurks beneath. this was his own doing, not mine.
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Zoarb wrote:
you think you've found a new "target".
Zoarb wrote:
But please understand... I might be YOUR target.
========= Summery: =========
a sore loser like Zoarb enjoys verbally attacking others as a target, but would cry foul when others hit him back defensively as a target.
in the end, it was his attitude problem of verbally attacking me over and over again in the present time that led to all this; not what happened 20 years ago in the past with a different group of people.
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Me wrote:
you claim to respect people with mental illness, yet you
openly admitted that you'd laugh at others whom you
perceive as being emotionally unstable. that is who
you are.
Zoarb wrote:
What are you on about?
Zoarb wrote:
You really aren't helping your case based on the
reaching you're doing here.
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the fact that he fails to reconize his wrongdoings shows that in the end, he is his own worst enemy, not I.
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Zoarb wrote:
TL;DR: Meet me in the Dreamcast Talk Discord, and we
can set up a debate.
Zoarb wrote:
There is no choice lol.
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Zoarb is losing the fight badly but he remains out of
touch, to the point where he thinks he is in a position
to negotiate and force me to agree to terms and
conditions favourable to him; what an delliousional fool.
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Zoarb wrote:
We can both coexist.
Zoarb wrote:
you don't exist to ME.
========= Summery: =========
at wit's end, Zoarb proposes peace and coexistence,
only to quickly retract it out of anger and shame at
himself for having to concede.
in the end, Zoarb betrayed even his own wants
to preserve his own sense of self worth; a truly
despicable slime and a hyprocrite to the very end.
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Zoarb wrote:
please, let it go.
Zoarb wrote:
There is nothing for you to gain here.
========= Summery: =========
Zoarb's softened attitude and reconciliatory tone tells me he's finally tasted defeat and humiliation; and that is the true measure of victory that i have "gained" against him.
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Zoarb wrote:
Much love, Zoarb Alderian
========= Summery: =========
so now Zoarb says "much love" to me, after all the insults he hurled at me on the forums
but he lied, for a person who has love and respect for others in his heart, would not showed such verbal agression as he did.
also notice his alter ego name is "Alderian", so the guy likes star wars.......but know that the Alderians were a peaceful people; for which "Zoarb" is anything but, in light of all the verbal agression and malice that he has publically shown.
what a funny little man that Zoarb is.
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Part 3: SOURCE
all quotes above were sourced directly from below
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[original links for all quotes]
https://web.archive.org/web/20230505021801/https://www.pso-world.com/forums/member.php?98513-Zoarb